Fernando Valenzuela?
Yes. Briefly.
This blog could not exist without Baseball Reference, and the $80 a year for the ad-free subscription is a steal given how much time I spend on the site. I always seem to uncover some delightful tidbit and lately it seems to be the result of post-Immaculate Grid curiosity.
Today’s discovery might be atop the list, if I kept a list.
Did we know Fernando Valenzuela was, for 75 days, in the Tigers system?

This development leads to a less-intriguing but worthy follow-up question: Did we know Rick Renteria was too?
My answer, at least, is: no!
Random Game: Aug. 13, 1983
Tigers 6 – Yankees 3
W: Jack Morris (14-8) – L: Ron Guidry (13-8) | Boxscore
- I sat in the upper-deck bleachers, dead center, for this game with my brother, future brother in law, and my friends (to this day!) Rob and Jeff.
- It could not have been a better stage: A warm August Saturday night, a packed house to see Jack Morris face Ron Guidry in a classic 1980s A.L. East showdown with the teams tied for the division lead.
- This was the first time in my Tigers fandom that the Tigers were this good, this close to first place, this late in the season — not counting 1981.
- The game took place a few days after Yankees right fielder Dave Winfield had dispatched a seagull with a warmup toss at Toronto’s Exhibition Stadium. Those of us in the bleachers tormented him with bird-like arm waving. Top-notch hijinks for a 15 year old.
- We went crazy after the game when the scoreboard showed the standings with the Tigers on top by a game. Insanity.
Highlights
- The Yankees led 3-2 until the bottom of the seventh when John Wockenfuss launched a homer to left, scoring Larry Herndon, to take a 4-2 lead. (I can still it in my mind, the ball arching in slow motion to left … but now I can’t remember if it was upper or lower deck.)
- Glenn Wilson hit a two-run double in the eighth to widen the lead to 6-2.
- Alan Trammell went 4 for 4.
- Morris went the distance, scattering six hits and striking out 12.
- According to The New York Times game story by Murray Chass, the loss snapped Guidry’s seven-game Tiger Stadium winning streak. The Tigers had last beaten him in Detroit May 21, 1979, 3-1.
Miscellany
- Umpires: HP – Al Clark, 1B – Bill Kunkel, 2B – Richard Shulock, 3B – Derryl Cousins.
- Time of Game: 2:27
- Attendance: 50,016
- Start Time Weather: 76° F
Birthdays
José Valdez, Joe Mantiply, Jimmy Hurst, Doug Creek, Kris Keller and the late Tim Thompson.
Today’s Grid
⚾️ Immaculate Grid 334 7/9 — Rarity: 212
Swings and misses include: Jerry Morales and Scott Rolen. But a couple of former Tigers*.
Have a great weekend. We’ll see you tomorrow.


In the first six games one thing was constant: the team that scored first would go on to lose. The Blue Jays, with the season in the balance, would take their chances and welcome an early lead off Tigers starter 
This is the second and final installment of my conversation with former Tigers outfielder and pinch-hitter extraordinaire, Johnny Grubb. You can find the first installment